Charlie Kirk reading — updated charts — going with WSJ time to the second. Classical and modern versions included.

Several astrologers stepped up and worked through the rulerships with me. Thanks for being a sounding board!

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These Notes are Evolvoing As I Work Out the Chart

Thank you Val Vandeboncouer for tuning up the time, sourced to the second in The Wall St. Journal. Thank you Colleen Mallette for going over the chart with me house by house. Many readers sent in suggestions and introductions to other astrologers.

Note, I am not going near an un-timed natal chart. If someone has birth data on Kirk with a source, please send it to me or enter it in the comments. Also if you have obseravtions about his noon or sunrise chart you’re welcome to enter them and I’m open to becoming interested.

The Chiron-Eris Conjunction

Before I get into the classical chart, the top and the bottom lines of the modern chart is that the Moon, though void, is pointing to the Chiron-Eris conjunction. This is the sigil of our time in history; the cyclical marker illuminating the current awakening. It was last active this way in 1971-1972, the first of two Chiron-Eris pairings in Aries.

It represnts the advent of individual consciousness in a time of digital tribal domination. It stands for the individual figuring out they are living in the global village. I’ve covered this in a diversity of forums, ongoing generally, and most succinctly in a special edition called The Awakening.

From a psychological or spiritual standpoint, the public (the Moon) is responding as conditioned by digital overwhelm (Eris) from which it is healing and awakening (Chiron).

Individuation has never been popular and is difficult to sustain under such intense pressure from digital conditions, which deprive people of any inner sanctity, sense of private being, sense of identity or even the reality of such. Under such conditions, indulgence in violence is often sought as an answer to one’s problems.

Two Layers — Classical and Modern

I am using whole sign houses. I am reading an event (mundane) chart using classical horary rules. That’s your basic Planet Waves reading — I do news astrology. Here is my method: classical first, then modern. They should say approximately the same thing, or compliment one another.

Traditional means the visible planets of antiquity, the luminaries, and the part of fortune.

Modern edition is a highly diversified chart, utilizing the traditional and modern planets which now include Chiron and Eris. I also use three deep space points, several centaur planets, a few asteroids, exactly 10 hypothetical planets including Transpluto, and a number of objects in something called the Kuiper Belt and beyond. I then hand annotate this into my summary sheet (top chart).

However due to my seemingly wild adventures in the solar system, I stay grounded in classical astrology, the table of essential dignities and the thema mundi.

Regarding the new planets and how I add them, it can take many years for a delineation to emerge, though I’m usually on it within a year or two. (Planets are discovered regularly in our solar system). One of my favorite articles explains the process of delineation and gives a succinct history of the topic.

Day of the Toga: The Classical Read, Using the Essential Dignities

When you look at the chart with only the classical planets (visible planets, Moon, Sun, fortune), nothing about that chart says shooting or death. The Moon is void/anaretic — no resolve — done deal from the outset. The Moon’s movement through its sign gives the play by play — but the inning is over.

Notably, the Moon is void in Aries 6th place (the military). Moon void is a stricture against judgment — but we are stuck with this chart (and cannot toss it) because this is an event chart and we are reading it. There is no alternative to a one time event.

The first thing I do is look for how the chart for the event matches the event. I cannot get this chart to look like someone shot. I cannot find the shot, or the injury, or a picture of the dead person being dead. That does not mean I’m not totally wrong and this event played out exactly as we are being told. I will accept whatever conclusion can be reasonably be inferred from the available evidence.

This is an astrology reading. And if someone can see a direct line of attack or the image of a deceased person in the chart, please leave it in the comments.

Note, Mercury, ruler of the 8th, is the final dispositor of the chart (using classical and modern planets) and appears to be in hayes (most dignified planet). This is the planet that represents Mr. Kirk. And it is in the strongest condition of any other in the chart with the posisble exception of Jupiter.

Mars Rules the Ascendant and the 6th Place

In horary, the ascendant ruler is the significator of the question. It can also be the significator of the initiator of action. That is Mars in the 12th place. Remember: whole sign houses. Mars also rules the 6th, which is the military. This gives a clue as to the nature of the event. There is a lot going on in in the 6th place and with Mars moving in on the Chiron-Eris setup, there could be more of this kind of thing over the next few weeks. But that is out of the scope of our question.

Rulers of the ‘Enemies’ Houses

The secret enemy (12th place ruler) and the open enemy (7th place ruler) both point to Venus, proud and preening at the top of the chart in Leo (10th place by whole sign) — most elevated planet. Big show. The “enemy” signifiators land in the house of the government (10th). So if this was a real murder, we know that it was a deep state sort of thing but really, that Venus is rather ostentatious. Standing alone and apart. In any event, the chart points to government actors, which means they are running the show, er, who are the show.

Ruler of the 8th

The 8th and its ruler describe the nature and cause of death. It’s essential to read this house in any death chart.

The supposed dead guy, ruler of the Gemini 8th place, comes out as Mercury in Virgo (next to the Sun, who could be the president). In the 11th, at a public square event. But what is threatening Mercury? Nothing.

There is a big show going on around Mercury but nothing actually threatening it. And in no way can I stretch a “throat wound” out of this chart. Venus in Leo — no. Moon, exalted ruler of Taurus is void of course, well, where is the injury? (In this case the Moon rules Taurus by exaltation but is located in Aries; where it’s void and therefore has little to no power or influence. As Dale said below, nothing can be done.)

Nothing actually makes contact with anything else looking at the classical planets. Nothing looks or feels or describes a shot going off.

Then The Other Layer

Add in the invisible planets and you get a whole other story. An aspect pattern emerges that includes (in order of the signs, all in aspect to the degree, so partile) Neptune on the Aries Point; Uranus in Gemini; Sedna in Gemini; Part of Fortune in Cancer; massive galaxy/black hole M87 in Libra; Haumea in Scorpio; Pluto in Aquarius. All are in DEGREE TWO of their respective signs.

The heart of tme matter is Neptune in Aries, no relieved of pressure from Saturn (which has backed into Pisces). Neptune’s influence flows through the whole aspect pattern of all of the bodies above.

This is a far reaching invisible layer of reality all in aspect within ONE degree. Neptune is lit. It’s pumping out fog.

In the pattern is TNP (special point) Poseidon sesquisquare (trigger) to Neptune, which Martha Wescott cautioned me about — a full power nonstop propaganda machine. This is a perpetual aspect that has lasted years and will keep on giving — with Neptune on the Aries Point fogging over the personal/collective interplay. So the outer planet layer describes, basically, the internet and the intelligence apparatus that is invisible or transparent.

Activity In Aries 6th Place

Aries and the 6th point to military action. The main player in Aries is Neptune pumping the Aries Point; and the void Moon. We also have the Chiron-Eris conjunction. There is heavy military presence in this chart.

Bring in the Facts

Cindy and I have reviewed videos of the event from about eight points of view. What is intriguing is that just before the apparent shot is heard, Kirk gives a hand signal as do two men standing near him. This is an indicator that if there was some kind of staged event, he signals that he was ready and therefore was involved.

To me the burst of blood you see from several points of view does not look real. I don’t sit around all day watching videos of people getting shot, and neither do you.

I have reached out to trauma doctors for their opinion and have not heard back. I do not know prop experts who would recognize immediately if it was a squib (some have commented below).

There is on exit wound. No blood spatter behind him. Nobody injured behind him. No bullet has been recovered. And here is what Dr Mark Bailey writes in response to reviewing the video:

I would say that it looks a bit odd. He seems to be unconscious instantly but should still have circulation to the brain through the right side. (When an animal is slaughtered you have to do both sides of the neck at once to get a fast kill.)

Seeing Is Beleiving, but Should Not Be

The problem is we assume these things happened as we are told they did when we have many reasons to suspect otherwise. The world is no longer “what you see is what you get” and in truth it never was. We fall for big lies because we tell small ones.

There is also a whole genre of AI hoax videos about this event. I admit many of them are persuasive from a TV standpoint — but I was not there, did not ID his body, I cannot tell you it was really Charlie Kirk on that stage, etc. So there is no way we can say much for sure from the physical evidence as claimed. Also the authorities are claiming a potential weapon but no bullet.

The New Generative AI Deep Fake “Reality”

We are also in a new environment with the advent of mass scale generative AI and the damage to awareness that it’s doing; the environment is described by the outer planet movements of our era — espescially Uranus, Neptune and Pluto all changing signs.

We are living in a massive propaganda machine and are too quick to believe that something is true, that it happened the way it happened, that the people who we are told they are. Viewers and readers are credulous. Most people believe anything they are hosed down with.

My take from the available information is that the man called Charlie Kirk on that stage is not dead; and that if he is dead, the event around him was a high-level professional and stage-managed assassination, not some Boy Scout or angry student or transsexual person with a bolt-action rifle that was all the rage in 1927.

We Should Be Asking More About Charlie

We do not know how Charlie Kirk got to be Charlie Kirk — from freshman dropout to national student galvaizer to presidential advisor. This would be important information.

His meteoric rise as a “student leader” who never was elected to any student office is suspicious, and if he had been a figure on the left, the right would have called him an outside agitator. Kirk was not sponsored by students per se; he was never in elected leadership of students; he was not a student leader. That is a ruse.

He was the groomed and cultivated whip to get the votes of seemingly conservative youth: created into a rock star of his day, for sure.

This event will be used to stoke a new age of conservative rallying; he will be held as a martyr and his name will live on in infamy. Etc. That said, I’m wondering about the total lack of security at this event; no police drones scanning rooftops, no snipers, perimeter, nada. After Butler one would think they’d be rather careful.

Your faithful astrolover,