Open discussion: U.S. Sibly chart
Thursday is the 248th anniversary of the presumed signing of the Declaration of Independence. The U.S. Pluto return officially begins now.
Good morning,
This is an invitation to an open discussion about the U.S. Pluto return. You may find an article by me about it here, and there are many others. The United States history section of Planet Waves is here.
While transiting Pluto was conjunct the U.S. natal Pluto in Capricorn a few years ago, with a cycle this long it’s best to factor in precessional movement (that is, a time shift necessitated by the Earth’s wobble).
This week is the 248th anniversary of the Declaration, and Pluto has a 248 year orbit. You may notice the position of Pluto in the solar return (birthday) chart is 1 degree Aquarius and 13 minutes — right where Pluto has been hanging around.
I’m interested in the thoughts of everyone from astrology fans to devoted readers to students to established astrologers. What do these charts tell you? When you look around at the world, what do you see? When you look at your news feed, how does that align with either of these?
Note that the “precessed birthday” of the United States is July 8. That means the whole zodiac has moved about four degrees against the sidereal horoscope since July 4, 1776. It’s complicated to explain, but maybe you know what I’m on about.
The Aries Point is four degrees closer to the contellation Aquarius than it was in 1776— but still pretty deep into Pisceus and still far away from the first star in Aquarius.
If we are in (or approaching) the Aquarian Age, it’s due to it being induced prematurely by exposure to electricity.
Thank you for your thoughts…
— efc
A question though: precessing the SR chart pretty much implies that the chart's relationship to the stars is primary to its relationship to the Sun. Do you think so?
There is a lot in these charts! I'm really interested in the switch in phasal relationship between Sun and Venus here....natal Venus is just past heliacal setting and in the SR chart, just a couple of days before heliacal rise. This SR Venus is opposite natal Pluto. This and these factors: the SR ASC conjunct the natal North Node (triggering the natal SN/Nessus), the the SR mutual reception of Sun and Moon from the 12H to 1H and with Mercury/Vesta on the SR ASC, opposite Pluto, with almost all of this in the BC 8H in what I think is an 8H profected year; this looks like, to borrow your term, a "thresholder" moment. Does the U.S. project have an opportunity to cross the plutonic portal into some other kind of existence? SR Jupiter conjunct the war-prone BC Uranus -- actually all of the Taurus events this year and Jupiter's ingress into Gemini are all in the U.S. natal 6H -- of healing and the common people.
With Moon ruling the 8H profected year and a beautiful SR Leonine 1H Moon opposing the natal Aquarian Moon, it looks like the "thresholder" moment is for the people of the U.S. Are we as a collective waking up to our terrible state? Is this the year for the living, beating heart of the people to elevate and guide this project into a different way of being? That is my hope and my prayer, and therefore, what I see in the chart.
Lots of semi-sextile action in the SR, I'm interested in SR Mars applying to Uranus semi-sextile with natal Mars. I'm also interested in SR Saturn/Nessus (8H) in the natal 4H. Neptune trine this very interesting Venus....I would call this chart: "The year of cross the portal or dissolve into chaos....".