Going out of Baltimore, sea captain in video above says that the tugs would be discharged before that crossing. Also I wonder how exactly the harbor pilot would get back to land.
Eric - Per usual w/this kind of giant event, there were lots of mis-directs & focus on the details plus many later detail additions/corrections to the point that no one (well hardly anyone) questioned how a cargo ship going around 9mph could bring down a massive, steel-reinforced bridge ALTOGETHER in mere seconds. (Deja vu re: aluminum airplanes crashing into & totally vaporizing massive WTC steel-reinforced & structurally sound skycscraper buildings.)
Just not possible regarding actual physics of steel-reinforced skyscraper building construction.
Only way Key bridge came down in seconds is if there was a giant demolition taking it down. But all the news of this false flag is similar to the other false flags - make peeps argue or point out the details of what the MSM told us so that we don't look at the very big bridge picture.
Who here really believes that the massive bridge could be entirely taken down by a ship? Nah.
See: Mar 26, 2024 - Both Charterer and Manager of Ship That Crashed Into Baltimore Bridge Are DEI-Pushing World Economic Forum Partners—Like Boeing: Maersk, Synergy Marine Group
Will Maersk and Synergy Marine Group's commitment to the WEF's DEI agenda result in as many catastrophes at sea as Boeing has caused in the air? - Jon Fleetwood
Article: "The doomed Singapore-flagged container ship, named the ‘Dali,’ was traveling from Baltimore to Sri Lanka, an island country in South Asia.
The Dali was chartered by Danish shipping company Maersk, which is an official partner of the “Great Reset”-advancing World Economic Forum (WEF)."
"Two of the stated goals of the WEF’s Great Reset are for global citizens to “own nothing” and “be happy” about it, and for the United States to no longer be the world’s leading superpower."
"Internationally, the WEF is behind the climate change narrative, promoting China as the next world superpower, and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) efforts."
"The globalist group accomplishes its goals by partnering with top politicians from around the world and international corporations."
So, Harbor Master Pilot or not, tugs or not, broken communications or not.. it was a WEF plan.
Baltimore harbor pilots were directing the ship at the time of the crash, as is customary when vessels enter ports or canals, according to a joint statement from the ship’s owner and manager. None of the 24 crew members were injured, and no spills occurred, the statement said.
Baltimore’s Key Bridge is entry to “the largest port for specialized cargo like trucks, tractors and trailers. It is also a gateway for bulk cargo like coal and petroleum products.”
"Wes Moore, Maryland’s governor, said the cargo ship’s crew told the authorities that they had lost power around the time that the ship struck the bridge."
Propulsion failed on the cargo ship that struck the Francis Key Bridge in Baltimore early Tuesday as it was leaving port, causing it to collapse into the frigid Patapsco River. Its crew warned Maryland officials of a possible collision because they had lost control.
“The vessel notified MD Department of Transportation (MDOT) that they had lost control of the vessel” and a collision with the bridge “was possible,” according to an unclassified Department of Homeland Security report. “The vessel struck the bridge causing a complete collapse.”
An official speaking on condition of anonymity confirmed to USA TODAY that the DHS’ Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency is working with federal, state, and local officials “to understand the potential impacts of this morning’s collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge.”
Clay Diamond, executive director, American Pilots’ Association, told USA TODAY power issues are not unusual on cargo ships, which are so large they cannot easily course correct.
“It’s likely that virtually every pilot in the country has experienced a power loss of some kind (but) it generally is momentary,” Diamond said. “This was a complete blackout of all the power on the ship, so that’s unusual. Of course this happened at the worst possible location.”
The ship in Tuesday's crash, Dali, was involved in at least one prior accident when it collided with a shipping pier in Belgium.
That 2016 incident occurred as the Dali was leaving port in Antwerp and struck a loading pier made of stone, causing damage to the ship’s stern, according to VesselFinder.com, a site that tracks ships across the world. An investigation determined a mistake made by the ship’s master and pilot was to blame.
No one was injured in that crash, although the ship required repair and a full inspection before being returned to service. The pier – or berth – was also seriously damaged and had to be closed.
VesselFinder reports that the Dali was chartered by Maersk, the same company chartering it during the Baltimore harbor incident.
Investigators, in a timeline, said the Dali's lights suddenly shut off four minutes earlier before coming back on and then, at 1:25 a.m. dark black smoke began billowing from the ship's chimney.
A minute later, at 1:26 a.m., the ship appeared to turn. And in the minutes before it slammed into the support, the lights flicked off and on again.
Dramatic video captured the moment at 1:28 a.m. Tuesday when the Dali struck a support and sent the bridge tumbling into the water. A livestream showed cars and trucks on the bridge just before the collision. The ship did not sink and its lights remained on.
Its main section spans 1,200 feet and was one of the longest continuous truss bridges in the world upon its completion, according to the National Steel Bridge Alliance.
The ship is owned by the Singapore-based Grace Ocean Pte Ltd but managed by Synergy Marine Group, also based in Singapore. It currently was carrying Maersk customers' cargo, according to a statement from the shipping company
USA Today reports a prior accident involving this ship.
I was not open enough to the potential for a technical failure or communication failure with Mercury conjunct Eris. However there should be multiple points of coverage; redundant systems. And in the false flag analysis, we have the question of why and how exactly the ship lost power.
Not a technical post, but... I dated a DOT Captain for a few years, and we spent a lot of time on the water. He also captained a tug. His intense attention to detail and focus on safety really struck me during our travels together. My initial thought was that the ship had veered off course several minutes before the accident, getting way too close to the piling. Simplifying the error point to just a few moments before impact seemed overly simplistic. The river flows quickly, requiring constant course adjustments and a wide berth well in advance of passing under the bridge. I would love to see video footage of the ships path 10 to 15 minutes before the impact.
With Chiron in the 4th could it imply that the very foundation of the creation of this structure was 'wounded'. With Mercury signifying business, conjunct Eris, were corners cut to expedite construction? Also, I find it odd that the ship itself was named 'Dali', perhaps after the Spanish surrealist painter that was known for painting scenes portraying the bending of reality and time. Also, one of the keyword for Chiron is 'a bridge'. Lots to chew on with this chart. Thank you, Eric!
With structural matters, we should see the story in Saturn. Saturn is in Pisces -- appropriate enough. What else is stressing Saturn? There was definitely a design flaw if you could pull out one piece and the whole thing comes down. Must we raise the issue of controlled demolition?
I've seen a number of videos that indicate multiples of explosions and puffs of smoke that trek along the collapse. I'm guessing by now, most of those here have as well.
Just for the hell of it, I ran the event on Serennu and found a few Asteroid placements in the ephemeris listing for that date/time/location that look like they might be worth considering. Eric says this disaster doesn't look "deliberate" to him, but after seeing these Asteroid placements, I would have to say I'm not so sure about that...
Asteroid # 416 Vaticana at Taurus 9° 24' was conjunct Asteroid #55 Pandora at Taurus 8° 48', and Asteroid # 120 Lachesis at Taurus 9° 34', all within 1 degree of each other. I think we probably all know who "Vaticana" represents, in their historical capacity of being known for "pulling strings behind the scenes" to initiate events that further certain larger objectives.... Astrologically, Pandora represents foolish choices, getting more than one bargained for, unexpected consequences arising from ill-considered acts, and negative circumstances for which we have no one to blame but ourselves. The US Govt. has a long history of performing ill-considered acts, to put it mildly. Lachesis was one of the "3 Fates" - the one in the middle who made the decision as to how long a person (country's ?) lifespan would last, before her sister Atropos cut the cord at time of death.
Asteroid # 3811 Karma (is a bitch) and at the time of the incident, she was located at Aries 28° 21', conjunct Asteroid # 327 Columbia (representing the District of) at Aries 28° 55'. This is only a few degrees from the Eris & Mercury conjunction at Aries 24° 36'.
Also, Asteroid Logos (representing the rational motivation behind something) was conjunct the Mid-Heaven of the event chart, which was only a few degrees from the Moon & South Node that Eric discusses as being of significance. Phil Sedgewick's website says the ceremonial meaning (as opposed to the mundane) of Logos is shamanic rituals of disassembly & reassembly. I've seen some (unsubstantiated so far) speculation online that there were likely some explosive charges strategically placed on the bridge to "help" it come down so exactly. All I'll say about that is that it would not surprise me, as we've seen that mode of "ritual dissasembly" before on a number of high profile building "collapses" over the years...
Asteroid #2254 Requiem (funeral music) was at Pisces 23° 55', loosely conjunct TNO #88611 Teharonhiawako (no clue how to pronounce that!) at Pisces 21° 11', and Asteroid # 99942 Apophis at Pisces 21° 4'. All 3 of these are very close to Neptune at Pisces 27° 41', which appears to be marked with the letters "FF" on Eric's chart image. Apophis is the Egyptian god of Chaos & Destruction. Teharonhiawako represents the struggle of good and evil within each of us. Sometimes one wins, sometimes the other does. Which wolf do you feed? The Sabian Symbol for 22 Pisces is: "A prophet bringing down new laws from Mount Sinai". Might that foreshadow Martial Law? The Sabian Symbol for 24 Pisces is: "On a small island surrounded by the vast expanse of the sea, people are living in close interaction". Baltimore Harbor and really the whole Chesapeake Bay area (with Baltimore, DC, Annapolis, etc.) is a pretty decent fit for that symbol too.
And Asteroid Chaos (# 19521) was at Cancer 0° 23' and this is less than 2 degrees from Vesta (at Gemini 28° 34') that Eric discusses in his podcast as being of significance. The Sabian Symbol for 1 Cancer is (you just can't make this shit up): "A furled and unfurled flag displayed from a vessel", representing (according to James Burgess): A point of no return when we reorient ourselves in a direction that acknowledges the need for accepting imperfection. "Major reorientation of loyalties and values"
Looks kinda sus to me... Oh, and the USA's Progressed New Moon was just the day before (3/25) too.
Hi Free, thanks for opening up this branch of the discussion. If it's OK I would like to walk you through my policy using these points.
To avoid any self-serving arguments in work with such a broad latitude, in my work, asteroid or minor planet placements must be within one degree of a tight major planet placement that is relevant to the chart.
So for example, I will be checking everything at 24+ cardinal to see what is describing the Mercury-Eris conjunction that is central to the chart. Patterns within one degree of an angle will also provide information.
To work with a palette of objects numbering in the thousands, you have to have ways to restrict (factor out) and evaluate their relevance. Also it's important to understand the differences between a minor planet that may take 300 years to orbit, and an asteroid that may take four years. They are handled differently.
You are welcome to take a look at the chart using that guide. I will be starting late with everything at 24+ cardinal to the degree; everything within 1 degree of the Moon; and see what that says.
from Roland Angle, chairman of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 PM, Roland Angle <roleangle@~~~.com> wrote:
From what I can see from the videos, it is entirely likely that the bridge could have collapsed when impacted by the ship at the location of the pier support. There would not have been any reason for the designers to have provided redundancy for a force supplied to the pier at that location -- it would have been considered too expensive to provide a defense against an event that was unlikely to occur. It was a critical point in the design of the structure that was vulnerable to the force that was applied to it, and that was either an unlikely coincidence or a really well planned event. Also remember that at the time of the construction of the bridge, there were no container ships the size of the one that hit the bridge.
Bet the Captain was vaccinated - probably had a vaccinated breakdown, shortly before the ship hit the bridge - supposed to have made a May Day call, just before it did. Probably like when a truck driver has a vaccine related Heart Attack, same problem, bigger vehicle, that's all.
well, the captain does not steer the ship (the helmsman does). And according to news reports, the ship was under the direction of harbor pilots, which is normal and I comment on that issue in my presentation.
I reckon the captain was on the bridge at the time of the distress call. let's see if anyone comes out with a reliable timeline.
No idea. Saw the video on my news pages, thought that's interesting, but that's about it. The short video showed how quickly the suspension bridge collapsed, it was frightening, my thought how to blow a few million in as many seconds, but it is how it was. From the angle of the ship, relative to the bridge piling the ship hit, the ship was way out of the shipping channel and should never have been there in the first place and I was wondering if it could have passed under the suspension bridge safely too, it seemed to be really highly stacked with containers - me speculating is all.
Steel truss bridge. If the ship lost power, that could happen -- which seems to have been the case. See video above with interview. There are some issues with the captain's assumptions, including the weather history saying there was no wind.
Well, the video I saw was on the left side of the bridge and the ship appeared on the left side of the truss and plowed into it and there was a puff of smoke when the ship hit and the whole bloody bridge contraption fell down really quickly - like bloody hell. I thought a ship that size would have had zero influence from the wind, if any, it was too big and heavy for wind to have affected its passage - it just seemed to come at the bridge truss from the left side out of nowhere, did not seem to deviate or try to at all. Guided missile more like.
Via Email
My brother-in-law also noted that there should have been, but weren’t, at least 1, maybe 2 tugs, accompanying the ship.
Going out of Baltimore, sea captain in video above says that the tugs would be discharged before that crossing. Also I wonder how exactly the harbor pilot would get back to land.
Eric - Per usual w/this kind of giant event, there were lots of mis-directs & focus on the details plus many later detail additions/corrections to the point that no one (well hardly anyone) questioned how a cargo ship going around 9mph could bring down a massive, steel-reinforced bridge ALTOGETHER in mere seconds. (Deja vu re: aluminum airplanes crashing into & totally vaporizing massive WTC steel-reinforced & structurally sound skycscraper buildings.)
Just not possible regarding actual physics of steel-reinforced skyscraper building construction.
Only way Key bridge came down in seconds is if there was a giant demolition taking it down. But all the news of this false flag is similar to the other false flags - make peeps argue or point out the details of what the MSM told us so that we don't look at the very big bridge picture.
Who here really believes that the massive bridge could be entirely taken down by a ship? Nah.
See: Mar 26, 2024 - Both Charterer and Manager of Ship That Crashed Into Baltimore Bridge Are DEI-Pushing World Economic Forum Partners—Like Boeing: Maersk, Synergy Marine Group
https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/both-charterer-and-manager-of-ship
Will Maersk and Synergy Marine Group's commitment to the WEF's DEI agenda result in as many catastrophes at sea as Boeing has caused in the air? - Jon Fleetwood
Article: "The doomed Singapore-flagged container ship, named the ‘Dali,’ was traveling from Baltimore to Sri Lanka, an island country in South Asia.
The Dali was chartered by Danish shipping company Maersk, which is an official partner of the “Great Reset”-advancing World Economic Forum (WEF)."
"Two of the stated goals of the WEF’s Great Reset are for global citizens to “own nothing” and “be happy” about it, and for the United States to no longer be the world’s leading superpower."
"Internationally, the WEF is behind the climate change narrative, promoting China as the next world superpower, and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) efforts."
"The globalist group accomplishes its goals by partnering with top politicians from around the world and international corporations."
So, Harbor Master Pilot or not, tugs or not, broken communications or not.. it was a WEF plan.
NY Times reporting —
Baltimore harbor pilots were directing the ship at the time of the crash, as is customary when vessels enter ports or canals, according to a joint statement from the ship’s owner and manager. None of the 24 crew members were injured, and no spills occurred, the statement said.
In a port a harbor pilot comes aboard and is responsible.
via email
Baltimore’s Key Bridge is entry to “the largest port for specialized cargo like trucks, tractors and trailers. It is also a gateway for bulk cargo like coal and petroleum products.”
"Wes Moore, Maryland’s governor, said the cargo ship’s crew told the authorities that they had lost power around the time that the ship struck the bridge."
Via Cindy Ragusa
the ship had a collision in 2016..."mistake made by the ship’s master and pilot was to blame"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/03/26/baltimore-bridge-collapse-ship-dali/73105394007/
Propulsion failed on the cargo ship that struck the Francis Key Bridge in Baltimore early Tuesday as it was leaving port, causing it to collapse into the frigid Patapsco River. Its crew warned Maryland officials of a possible collision because they had lost control.
“The vessel notified MD Department of Transportation (MDOT) that they had lost control of the vessel” and a collision with the bridge “was possible,” according to an unclassified Department of Homeland Security report. “The vessel struck the bridge causing a complete collapse.”
An official speaking on condition of anonymity confirmed to USA TODAY that the DHS’ Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency is working with federal, state, and local officials “to understand the potential impacts of this morning’s collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge.”
Clay Diamond, executive director, American Pilots’ Association, told USA TODAY power issues are not unusual on cargo ships, which are so large they cannot easily course correct.
“It’s likely that virtually every pilot in the country has experienced a power loss of some kind (but) it generally is momentary,” Diamond said. “This was a complete blackout of all the power on the ship, so that’s unusual. Of course this happened at the worst possible location.”
The ship in Tuesday's crash, Dali, was involved in at least one prior accident when it collided with a shipping pier in Belgium.
That 2016 incident occurred as the Dali was leaving port in Antwerp and struck a loading pier made of stone, causing damage to the ship’s stern, according to VesselFinder.com, a site that tracks ships across the world. An investigation determined a mistake made by the ship’s master and pilot was to blame.
No one was injured in that crash, although the ship required repair and a full inspection before being returned to service. The pier – or berth – was also seriously damaged and had to be closed.
VesselFinder reports that the Dali was chartered by Maersk, the same company chartering it during the Baltimore harbor incident.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/maryland-bridge-collapse-francis-scott-key-bridge-boat-baltimore-rcna145047
Investigators, in a timeline, said the Dali's lights suddenly shut off four minutes earlier before coming back on and then, at 1:25 a.m. dark black smoke began billowing from the ship's chimney.
A minute later, at 1:26 a.m., the ship appeared to turn. And in the minutes before it slammed into the support, the lights flicked off and on again.
Dramatic video captured the moment at 1:28 a.m. Tuesday when the Dali struck a support and sent the bridge tumbling into the water. A livestream showed cars and trucks on the bridge just before the collision. The ship did not sink and its lights remained on.
Its main section spans 1,200 feet and was one of the longest continuous truss bridges in the world upon its completion, according to the National Steel Bridge Alliance.
Via Jeff Strahl (prior accident is confirmed)
The ship is owned by the Singapore-based Grace Ocean Pte Ltd but managed by Synergy Marine Group, also based in Singapore. It currently was carrying Maersk customers' cargo, according to a statement from the shipping company
USA Today reports a prior accident involving this ship.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/03/26/baltimore-bridge-collapse-ship-dali/73105394007/
NY Times has reported that the FBI says it does not suspect terrorism.
lol
I was not open enough to the potential for a technical failure or communication failure with Mercury conjunct Eris. However there should be multiple points of coverage; redundant systems. And in the false flag analysis, we have the question of why and how exactly the ship lost power.
Not a technical post, but... I dated a DOT Captain for a few years, and we spent a lot of time on the water. He also captained a tug. His intense attention to detail and focus on safety really struck me during our travels together. My initial thought was that the ship had veered off course several minutes before the accident, getting way too close to the piling. Simplifying the error point to just a few moments before impact seemed overly simplistic. The river flows quickly, requiring constant course adjustments and a wide berth well in advance of passing under the bridge. I would love to see video footage of the ships path 10 to 15 minutes before the impact.
With Chiron in the 4th could it imply that the very foundation of the creation of this structure was 'wounded'. With Mercury signifying business, conjunct Eris, were corners cut to expedite construction? Also, I find it odd that the ship itself was named 'Dali', perhaps after the Spanish surrealist painter that was known for painting scenes portraying the bending of reality and time. Also, one of the keyword for Chiron is 'a bridge'. Lots to chew on with this chart. Thank you, Eric!
With structural matters, we should see the story in Saturn. Saturn is in Pisces -- appropriate enough. What else is stressing Saturn? There was definitely a design flaw if you could pull out one piece and the whole thing comes down. Must we raise the issue of controlled demolition?
I've seen a number of videos that indicate multiples of explosions and puffs of smoke that trek along the collapse. I'm guessing by now, most of those here have as well.
Chilling…thanks for looking into this so pronto!
This is so interesting...Dali, the painter, painted a broken bridge: https://www.dalipaintings.com/the-broken-bridge-and-the-dream.jsp
Just for the hell of it, I ran the event on Serennu and found a few Asteroid placements in the ephemeris listing for that date/time/location that look like they might be worth considering. Eric says this disaster doesn't look "deliberate" to him, but after seeing these Asteroid placements, I would have to say I'm not so sure about that...
Asteroid # 416 Vaticana at Taurus 9° 24' was conjunct Asteroid #55 Pandora at Taurus 8° 48', and Asteroid # 120 Lachesis at Taurus 9° 34', all within 1 degree of each other. I think we probably all know who "Vaticana" represents, in their historical capacity of being known for "pulling strings behind the scenes" to initiate events that further certain larger objectives.... Astrologically, Pandora represents foolish choices, getting more than one bargained for, unexpected consequences arising from ill-considered acts, and negative circumstances for which we have no one to blame but ourselves. The US Govt. has a long history of performing ill-considered acts, to put it mildly. Lachesis was one of the "3 Fates" - the one in the middle who made the decision as to how long a person (country's ?) lifespan would last, before her sister Atropos cut the cord at time of death.
Asteroid # 3811 Karma (is a bitch) and at the time of the incident, she was located at Aries 28° 21', conjunct Asteroid # 327 Columbia (representing the District of) at Aries 28° 55'. This is only a few degrees from the Eris & Mercury conjunction at Aries 24° 36'.
Also, Asteroid Logos (representing the rational motivation behind something) was conjunct the Mid-Heaven of the event chart, which was only a few degrees from the Moon & South Node that Eric discusses as being of significance. Phil Sedgewick's website says the ceremonial meaning (as opposed to the mundane) of Logos is shamanic rituals of disassembly & reassembly. I've seen some (unsubstantiated so far) speculation online that there were likely some explosive charges strategically placed on the bridge to "help" it come down so exactly. All I'll say about that is that it would not surprise me, as we've seen that mode of "ritual dissasembly" before on a number of high profile building "collapses" over the years...
Asteroid #2254 Requiem (funeral music) was at Pisces 23° 55', loosely conjunct TNO #88611 Teharonhiawako (no clue how to pronounce that!) at Pisces 21° 11', and Asteroid # 99942 Apophis at Pisces 21° 4'. All 3 of these are very close to Neptune at Pisces 27° 41', which appears to be marked with the letters "FF" on Eric's chart image. Apophis is the Egyptian god of Chaos & Destruction. Teharonhiawako represents the struggle of good and evil within each of us. Sometimes one wins, sometimes the other does. Which wolf do you feed? The Sabian Symbol for 22 Pisces is: "A prophet bringing down new laws from Mount Sinai". Might that foreshadow Martial Law? The Sabian Symbol for 24 Pisces is: "On a small island surrounded by the vast expanse of the sea, people are living in close interaction". Baltimore Harbor and really the whole Chesapeake Bay area (with Baltimore, DC, Annapolis, etc.) is a pretty decent fit for that symbol too.
And Asteroid Chaos (# 19521) was at Cancer 0° 23' and this is less than 2 degrees from Vesta (at Gemini 28° 34') that Eric discusses in his podcast as being of significance. The Sabian Symbol for 1 Cancer is (you just can't make this shit up): "A furled and unfurled flag displayed from a vessel", representing (according to James Burgess): A point of no return when we reorient ourselves in a direction that acknowledges the need for accepting imperfection. "Major reorientation of loyalties and values"
Looks kinda sus to me... Oh, and the USA's Progressed New Moon was just the day before (3/25) too.
Hi Free, thanks for opening up this branch of the discussion. If it's OK I would like to walk you through my policy using these points.
To avoid any self-serving arguments in work with such a broad latitude, in my work, asteroid or minor planet placements must be within one degree of a tight major planet placement that is relevant to the chart.
So for example, I will be checking everything at 24+ cardinal to see what is describing the Mercury-Eris conjunction that is central to the chart. Patterns within one degree of an angle will also provide information.
To work with a palette of objects numbering in the thousands, you have to have ways to restrict (factor out) and evaluate their relevance. Also it's important to understand the differences between a minor planet that may take 300 years to orbit, and an asteroid that may take four years. They are handled differently.
You are welcome to take a look at the chart using that guide. I will be starting late with everything at 24+ cardinal to the degree; everything within 1 degree of the Moon; and see what that says.
Thanks again
From my friend Reinette Senum’s FogHorn Express Substack
https://reinettesenumsfoghornexpress.substack.com/p/bridge-over-troubled-waters?utm_medium=email&r=7mv4t
from Roland Angle, chairman of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 PM, Roland Angle <roleangle@~~~.com> wrote:
From what I can see from the videos, it is entirely likely that the bridge could have collapsed when impacted by the ship at the location of the pier support. There would not have been any reason for the designers to have provided redundancy for a force supplied to the pier at that location -- it would have been considered too expensive to provide a defense against an event that was unlikely to occur. It was a critical point in the design of the structure that was vulnerable to the force that was applied to it, and that was either an unlikely coincidence or a really well planned event. Also remember that at the time of the construction of the bridge, there were no container ships the size of the one that hit the bridge.
Roland
Bet the Captain was vaccinated - probably had a vaccinated breakdown, shortly before the ship hit the bridge - supposed to have made a May Day call, just before it did. Probably like when a truck driver has a vaccine related Heart Attack, same problem, bigger vehicle, that's all.
well, the captain does not steer the ship (the helmsman does). And according to news reports, the ship was under the direction of harbor pilots, which is normal and I comment on that issue in my presentation.
I reckon the captain was on the bridge at the time of the distress call. let's see if anyone comes out with a reliable timeline.
No idea. Saw the video on my news pages, thought that's interesting, but that's about it. The short video showed how quickly the suspension bridge collapsed, it was frightening, my thought how to blow a few million in as many seconds, but it is how it was. From the angle of the ship, relative to the bridge piling the ship hit, the ship was way out of the shipping channel and should never have been there in the first place and I was wondering if it could have passed under the suspension bridge safely too, it seemed to be really highly stacked with containers - me speculating is all.
Steel truss bridge. If the ship lost power, that could happen -- which seems to have been the case. See video above with interview. There are some issues with the captain's assumptions, including the weather history saying there was no wind.
Well, the video I saw was on the left side of the bridge and the ship appeared on the left side of the truss and plowed into it and there was a puff of smoke when the ship hit and the whole bloody bridge contraption fell down really quickly - like bloody hell. I thought a ship that size would have had zero influence from the wind, if any, it was too big and heavy for wind to have affected its passage - it just seemed to come at the bridge truss from the left side out of nowhere, did not seem to deviate or try to at all. Guided missile more like.
I too saw videos with flashes and puffs of smoke all along the collapsing portions as if stacked dominoes in succession.